Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/25/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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03:03:16 PM Adjourn
01:38:16 PM Start
01:40:04 PM Presentation: Department of Transportation and Public Facilities on Capital Projects
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= HB 40 APPROP: CAPITAL/SUPPLEMENTAL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Department of Transportation and TELECONFERENCED
Public Facilities on Capital Projects by
Commissioner Ryan Anderson, and Dom Pannone,
Administrative Services Director, Department of
Transportation and Public Facilities
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 40                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      "An   Act   making   appropriations,     including   capital                                                              
      appropriations     and   other    appropriations;     making                                                              
      supplemental   appropriations;   making   appropriations   to                                                             
      capitalize   funds;   and   providing    for  an   effective                                                              
      date."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:    DEPARTMENT    OF  TRANSPORTATION     AND  PUBLIC                                                            
FACILITIES ON CAPITAL PROJECTS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  ANDERSON,   COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT   OF  TRANSPORTATION                                                               
AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,    introduced   himself    and  offered                                                              
opening   remarks.  He  communicated    that  the  FY  24  Capital                                                              
Budget  was  one  of the  highest   ever  for the  department   due                                                             
to  the   approximately    $1.8   billion   infusion   of  federal                                                              
money.   He  wanted   to   make   the  most   of  the   investment                                                              
opportunities   and  make   improvements   across  the  state.   He                                                             
presented   the   PowerPoint   presentation    "FY   2024  Capital                                                              
Program Overview" dated April 25, 2023 (copy on file).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson   moved   to  Slide  1  titled   "Alaska's                                                              
Transportation    Share."   He  explained   that   the  bar   graph                                                             
reflected   the federal   revenue  from  2019  through   2023  that                                                             
was  broken  down  in a  chart  at  the bottom  of  the  slide.  He                                                             
pointed   to  the  Federal   Highways   Formula   Funds  data   and                                                             
reported   that  it   was  the  "staple"   of  DOT   funding.   The                                                             
Federal   Highways    Allocations   were   funding    specifically                                                              
directed   by  the  Federal  Highway   Administration   (FHA)   for                                                             
things    like   the   Highway    Safety    Improvement    Program                                                              
regarding   highway  safety  and  the  Carbon  Reduction  Program,                                                              
etc.  He highlighted   that  the FHA,  Federal  Aviation  Program,                                                              
and  Federal   Transit  Program   numbers  depicted   the  overall                                                              
increase   in  federal  funding   overtime.   He  noted  that   the                                                             
2024  figures   were  not  included  because   the  funds  had  not                                                             
yet  been allocated   but the  Department  of  Transportation   and                                                             
Public   Facilities    (DOT)   was   anticipating   roughly    $1.5                                                             
billion    in    revenue    due    to   success    in    obtaining                                                              
discretionary     grants    and   other    increases    from    the                                                             
Infrastructure     Investment    and    Jobs   Act    (IIJA).    He                                                             
reiterated   that  he  wanted   to  take  full  advantage   of  the                                                             
IIJA  funding   and  shared   that  the  department   was  working                                                              
hard  on  that  goal.  He  communicated   that  when  the  act  was                                                             
first  announced  the  department  embarked   on arduous  research                                                              
on  how to  make  the most  of  the funding  and  programming.   In                                                             
addition,  the  department   reached  out  to the  public  to  hear                                                             
what   citizens   wanted    for  transportation    infrastructure                                                               
resulting   in  identifying   5 investment   areas   based  on  the                                                             
publics input and the governors priorities.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Anderson   discussed   slide   3  titled    DOT&PF                                                              
Strategic   Investment   Areas   SFY24   Governor   Amend  Capital                                                              
Program:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Safety:  A safe  and secure  transportation   system  with  a                                                             
      focus  on  reducing  fatalities   and  serious  injuries   in                                                             
      our transportation corridors, recognizing trends, and                                                                     
      establishing   programs,  projects,   and  initiatives   that                                                             
      move the needle in a positive direction.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      State   of   Good   Repair:    A  seamless    and   reliable                                                              
      transportation   system  whose  infrastructure's   condition                                                              
      is measured   systematically   with  programs  and  projects                                                              
      focused   on   a   consistently    good   condition   across                                                              
      transportation modes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Economic Vitality: A healthy and thriving multi-modal.                                                                    
      transportation   system   that  efficiently   moves  people,                                                              
      fuel, and  freight  in  order to  reduce  costs  and enhance                                                              
      economic  development   and   provides  for  infrastructure                                                               
      to access the Alaskan outdoors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Resiliency:   An   agile   and   resilient   transportation                                                               
      system   that   protects    communities    against   extreme                                                              
      weather  and   climate  trends,   service   disruptions   and                                                             
      other  risks,  and  is  able   to  adapt  and  recover   when                                                             
      disruptions do occur.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Sustainable Transportation: A modern and sustainable                                                                      
      transportation   system   that  facilitates   reduced   costs                                                             
      of  energy,   cleaner  air,   and  reduced   greenhouse   gas                                                             
      emissions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson  underlined   that  the pie  chart  on  the                                                             
slide   showed   the   amount   (percent)   of   investment    each                                                             
strategic   investment   areas   would   receive   in  FY  24.   He                                                             
turned   to  slide   4  titled    Diversified   Investments.     He                                                             
explained   that  DOT  developed   a  new  online   system  called                                                              
 APEX   Alaska   Project  Exchange   that  connected  Alaska   with                                                             
construction   information.   The public   could  log on  and  find                                                             
a   listing   of   the  projects    in   Alaska   that   would   be                                                             
constructed   that  included  the  extent  and  location   of  each                                                             
project.   He added   that  the  website  would  be  expanded   but                                                             
currently   included   information   by   census   area,  borough,                                                              
municipality, and House or Senate districts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Ortiz  asked   if  APEX   was   related  to   the                                                             
Statewide    Transportation     Improvement     Program    (STIP).                                                              
Commissioner   Anderson   responded    that  the   department   was                                                             
trying  to  work on  an  electronic  version  of  the  STIP,  which                                                             
would   include    outyears.    He   furthered   that    APEX   was                                                             
specifically   oriented  to what  projects  would  be  constructed                                                              
in  the  current  year.  The  further  projects   were  forecasted                                                              
out  in  the future   the more  schedules   shifted  and  changed.                                                              
The  APEX project  listings   were based  on  established  funding                                                              
and some projects were already ongoing.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOM  PANNONE,   ADMINISTRATIVE   SERVICES   DIRECTOR,   DEPARTMENT                                                              
OF   TRANSPORTATION     AND    PUBLIC   FACILITIES,     introduced                                                              
himself.  He  continued  on  slide  5  titled   FY2024  Governor's                                                              
Amended:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      $1.8B - Capital Budget Overview                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
             $777M - Surface Transportation Program, 127                                                                        
             Allocations                                                                                                        
              .notdef $4.8M (OTHER) / $772.2M (FED)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
             $386.4M - Airport Improvement Program, 50                                                                          
             Allocations                                                                                                        
             .notdef $19.5M (OTHER) / $366.9M (FED)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
             $196.5M - Statewide Federal Programs, 8                                                                            
             Allocations                                                                                                        
              .notdef $10M (OTHER) / $185.5M (FED)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
             $283.9M - Rural Ferry Program, 6 Allocations                                                                       
                 .notdef $2.1M (DGF) / $281.8M (FED)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
             $118M - Federal Program Match, 4 Allocations                                                                       
                 .notdef $108.7 (UGF) / $1M (DGF) / $8.4M (OTHER)                                                             
                                                                                                                                
              $68.3M - State Funded and Named Projects, 6                                                                       
           Appropriations                                                                                                       
                 .notdef $4.8M (UGF) / $22M (DGF) / $41.4M (OTHER)                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pannone indicated that the slide provided a high level                                                                      
overview   of  the  FY 24  governor's   amended   budget  request.                                                              
The  request  had 11  appropriations   with  many suballocations.                                                               
The  first five  bullets  denoted  the  federal  capital  programs                                                              
administered   annually   by  DOT.  He  elaborated   that  each  of                                                             
the  appropriations    had  allocations   within  them  that   were                                                             
either  a  project,  specific   program,  and  objective   tied  to                                                             
funding,   grants,  or  other  directed   use.  The  final  bullet                                                              
represented   the  six  appropriations   that  were  state  funded                                                              
and named projects.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  noted  that  Representative    Tomaszewski   had                                                             
joined  the  meeting.  He commented  that  in  the prior  year  the                                                             
legislature   discovered   that   much  of  the   IIJA  money   was                                                             
going  to go  through  existing  programs  that  had  been "beefed                                                              
up."  He  noted   that  at  the  time  much   of  the  information                                                              
regarding  funding  was  incomplete  or  unknown.  He  offered  the                                                             
commissioner   the  opportunity   to  provide  comments   from  the                                                             
prior perspective to what actually happened.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson    responded  that  many  of the  programs                                                              
had  indeed   been  "beefed  up."   He  communicated   that  a  few                                                             
surprises   happened  since  the  IIJA  funding   information   was                                                             
fully   refined.   Inflation    had  eaten   into   some   of   the                                                             
anticipated    funding   increases.   However,   for   the  larger                                                              
programs  like  safety   and  road  repair  the  funding  resulted                                                              
in  increased  construction   in  the current   year.  He reported                                                              
that  under   the  Resiliency   investment   area  the  department                                                              
worked    hard   to   obtain    funding   for    communities    for                                                             
protection    against    erosion,    etc.    In    addition,    the                                                             
department   was procuring   carbon  reduction   funds  for things                                                              
like  port  electrification    in Southeast   Alaska  and  looking                                                              
at ways  in  which  DOT could  contribute  to  economic  vitality.                                                              
He  offered  that  DOT  staff  and  its  consulting  partners   had                                                             
succeeded    in   building    the   overall    program    and   was                                                             
successful    in   project    delivery;    the    department    was                                                             
delivering   a record  number  of  projects  in  the current   year                                                             
and following year.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:52:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  pointed  to slide  5  and noted  that  the                                                             
first   three   bullets    included   only   federal    and   other                                                             
funding.  She  asked  if there  was any  state  match  for the  top                                                             
three   appropriations.    She   observed   that   the   following                                                              
appropriations    included   Undesignated   General   Funds   (UGF)                                                             
and  Designated   General  Funds  (DGF).   Mr.  Pannone  responded                                                              
that  the  first  three   represented   federal  funds  and   other                                                             
funds.  He  delineated   that   the  match  for  the  first   three                                                             
appropriations    were  pooled   into   the  fifth   bullet   point                                                             
appropriation,   which  was how  the  budget  was structured.   The                                                             
Federal   Program   Match   totaling   $108.7   million   in   UGF,                                                             
varied   based   on  the   allocations   within   the   top   three                                                             
appropriations.   Representative   Hannan  asked  about  the  rural                                                             
ferry  program.  She  thought  that the  match  needed  to be  much                                                             
higher  than  the  $2.1 million   DGF denoted  on  the  slide.  She                                                             
asked  if  it  was   the  entirety  of  the   necessary  match   to                                                             
receive  the  $281.8  million  in  federal  funding.   Mr. Pannone                                                              
replied    that the  Rural  Ferry  Grants  were  included  in  both                                                             
capital   and   operating   grants.    He  elucidated    that   the                                                             
operating  grant  required  a  50 percent  match.  The  slide  only                                                             
reflected    the   5  capital    projects   related   to   capital                                                              
improvements   and  for  some   of  the  projects  the  match   was                                                             
already   appropriated.   In  addition,  DOT  was  using   a  novel                                                             
funding  tool  called   match  credits,   which  authorized   using                                                             
federal dollars in lieu of state matching funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:55:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  asked  if  the  department  was  in  the process                                                              
of  interpreting   what  the   programmatic   funding  needs   were                                                             
for  the  federal  funding  streams.  MR.  Pannone  answered   that                                                             
DOT  knew  the amount  of  match  it needed  for  the  anticipated                                                              
revenue.   The   match   was  calculated    based  on   the   known                                                             
revenues.   He   indicated    that   discretionary    grants   were                                                             
introduced   in  IIJA.  The  grants  were   competitive,   and  the                                                             
department  was  not  seeking  match  funding  for grants  not  yet                                                             
awarded.   The  department   had  alluded  to  the  issue   in  the                                                             
prior year.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Ortiz  noted  that  he did  not  recall  the  term                                                             
rural  ferry   being  used  in  prior   years  versus  the  Alaska                                                              
Marine  Highway   System  (AMHS).  He  wondered  if  the  two  were                                                             
the  same.  Mr.  Pannone  responded  that  it  was  a new  program                                                              
and  appropriation    that   housed  the   newly  available    IIJA                                                             
funding     DOT    received     from    the     Federal    Transit                                                              
Administration for AMHS.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Anderson   reviewed   slide   6  titled    Surface                                                              
Transportation Program:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      Program Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
              Program Development: Statewide Transportation                                                                     
           Improvement Plan                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                 Program Total  $858,514.0                                                                                      
                 SDPR           $4,776.2                                                                                        
                 Federal Rcpts. $772,237.8                                                                                      
                 UGF (Match)    $81,500.0                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
             Safety                                                                                                             
                 .notdef Highway Safety Improvement Program                                                                   
                 .notdef Bridge and Tunnel Inventory, Inspection,                                                             
                   Monitoring                                                                                                   
                 .notdef Rock Slope Stabilization Program                                                                     
                 .notdef Winter Trail Marking                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
             State of Good Repair                                                                                               
                 .notdef Pavement and Bridge Preservation                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
             Economic Vitality                                                                                                  
                 .notdef Ice Roads & Seasonal Roads Maintenance                                                               
                   Program                                                                                                      
                 .notdef Statewide Wayside Improvement Program                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             Resiliency                                                                                                         
                 .notdef Bridge Scour Monitoring and Retrofit                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
             Sustainable Transportation                                                                                         
                 .notdef Electric Vehicle Infrastructure                                                                      
                 .notdef iWays                                                                                                
                 .notdef Light up the Highways                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson  remarked  that  the  slide contained   the                                                             
highlights   for   programs   and  projects   that   were  on   the                                                             
horizon.    He   explained    that    the   Rock    Slop   Failure                                                              
Stabilization    Program    was   new   due   to   the   increased                                                              
prevalence   of  the   slope  failures   around   the  state.   The                                                             
Winter   Trail  Marking   Program   was  an  established   program                                                              
where  DOT  worked  with  local  communities  to  support  marking                                                              
the   trails   for   increased   safety.   Pavement    and  Bridge                                                              
Preservation   was  a large  program   utilizing  the  Maintenance                                                              
and  Operation  staff  in repair  work.  He offered  that  the  Ice                                                             
Roads   &  Seasonal   Roads   Maintenance    Program   was  a   new                                                             
program   through  IIJA,  and  10  communities   had  applied   for                                                             
the   funding   and   were   awarded,   resulting   in   ice   road                                                             
building  in  the current  winter.  The  program  would  double  in                                                             
size  in   the  FY  24  budget   to  $4  million.   The  Statewide                                                              
Wayside   Improvement   Program   was  new  and   would  focus   on                                                             
waysides  across  the  state  for  improvement   and building   new                                                             
waysides.   He  indicated   that  there   was  a   suite    of  new                                                             
sustainable    transportation     programs    like    iWAys    that                                                             
incorporated    the   use   of   technology    in  transportation                                                               
systems.   Light  up  the  Highways   would   switch  all  highway                                                              
lighting   across   the   state   to  LED   over  several   years,                                                              
resulting in decreased operational expenses.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:02:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan  cited  the slide  and  asked  what bridge                                                              
scour  meant.  Commissioner   Anderson  responded  that  as rivers                                                              
changed   course,  they  scour  the  material   on  the  bed  of  a                                                             
river  away  from  bridge  foundations.   The  department   had  to                                                             
ensure the bridges were safe.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:02:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  asked  what  the  goal  for the  electric                                                              
vehicle   infrastructure   was.  In  addition,   she  remarked   on                                                             
the   state   of   disrepair    on   roads   from   frost   heaves                                                              
exacerbated   by   climate   issues  especially    in  communities                                                              
like  Bethel.  She had  hoped  to see  the issue  addressed   under                                                             
sustainability.    Commissioner   Anderson   replied   that   there                                                             
were   many    projects    that   could   be   classified     under                                                             
resiliency,   and he  included  frost  heaves   in that  category.                                                              
He  furthered    that  there   were   more   opportunities    under                                                             
resiliency  coming  out  every  day  and informed  Representative                                                               
Galvin  of  a  new discretionary   grant   under  the IIJA  called                                                              
the  Protect   Program   that  was   focused  on   resiliency   and                                                             
increases    in   funding   was   forthcoming    for   roads    and                                                             
infrastructure    protection.   He  addressed   Electric   Vehicle                                                              
Infrastructure     and   shared    that    the   department     was                                                             
partnering   with  the Alaska  Electric   Association   (AEA).  The                                                             
department   was  not  an expert   in power   and  was looking   to                                                             
support   entities  like   AEA  and  transfer   funding  to   them.                                                             
They   were  examining    project   bundling   opportunities    for                                                             
things  like  port electrification.    The department   was taking                                                              
initiative   on  electric  vehicle   charging  starting   with  the                                                             
Anchorage and Fairbanks International Airports.                                                                                 
2:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Anderson moved to slide 7 titled Surface                                                                           
Transportation Program (contd) that included more project                                                                       
highlights:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Project Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             Western                                                                                                            
                 .notdef Bethel Chief Eddie Hoffman Highway                                                                   
                   Rehabilitation                                                                                               
                 .notdef Nome Seppala Drive                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
             Interior                                                                                                           
                 .notdef Airport Way South Cushman Intersection                                                               
                 .notdef Bridges: Gerstle River, Johnson River,                                                               
                   Chena Flood Control, Dalton Hwy Hammond                                                                      
                   River                                                                                                        
              .notdef Richardson Highway MP 266-341 Passing Lanes                                                             
                                                                                                                                
             Mat Su                                                                                                             
                 .notdef Knik Goose Bay Road Reconstruction Centaur                                                           
                   Avenue to Vine Road                                                                                          
                 .notdef Bogard Road at Engstrom/Green Forest                                                                 
                   Drive;                                                                                                       
                   Wasilla Fishhook Road / Main Street                                                                          
                 .notdef Big Lake Road MP 0-3.6 / Fairview Loop                                                               
                                                                                                                                
             Southeast                                                                                                          
                 .notdef Hoonah Harbor Way Pedestrian Improvements                                                            
                   And Pitt Island Cemetery Walkway                                                                             
             .notdef Prince of Wales Neck Lake Road                                                                           
                   Reconstruction                                                                                               
              .notdef Haines Highway Reconstruction                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
             South Central                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                 .notdef Gambell/Ingra Streets Improvements                                                                   
                 .notdef Sterling Highway MP 45-60                                                                            
                 .notdef Cordova Whitshed Road                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson   offered  that   there  were  many   other                                                             
projects   in   the  budget.   All   the   projects   listed   were                                                             
repair,  safety,  and  improvement  projects.   He noted  that  the                                                             
Interior   bridges  were   prioritized   due  to  their  condition                                                              
and age.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp  asked  how  long  the  Gerstle   River  and                                                             
Johson  River   had  been  on  the  STIP.  Commissioner   Anderson                                                              
was  unsure   and  would   return   to  the  committee   with   the                                                             
information.   He  relayed   that  they  were  large  bridges   had                                                             
been  raised  in  priority  in  the  past,  but  with the  current                                                              
additional   funding  it  was  the  appropriate   time  to address                                                              
the  need.   Representative    Stapp   asked  about   the  funding                                                              
match.  He wondered   if it  was a consistent   ratio  and whether                                                              
DOT  was  leveraging   the  same  amount   of  money.  He  noticed                                                              
that  there  was  no general   fund  requirement  for  any  of  the                                                             
projects   in  the  capital  budget.   Mr.  Pannone  responded   it                                                             
was  generally   9.5  to  1  ratio  for  the  FHA.  He  elaborated                                                              
that there were certain projects that were 2 to 8 ratio.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:10:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   related  that  there   were  a number                                                              
of   critics   regarding   the   listed   Interior    bridges.   He                                                             
inquired   whether  the  bridges  were   on the  list  to  support                                                              
the  Tetlin  mine  and asked  if  the  administration   was candid                                                              
about   the  topic.  Commissioner    Anderson   replied  that   the                                                             
bridges   were  old  and  with   the  realization   that  activity                                                              
could   be  increased   with  the   mine  DOT  prioritized    them.                                                             
Currently,   the load  volumes   were  very  low with  200  to  400                                                             
hundred  vehicles  crossing  each  day  versus  15 thousand  to  20                                                             
thousand  bridge   crossings  per  day  in the  Matanuska-Susitna                                                               
Valley  (MAT-SU).   The  potential   for  increased   road  volume                                                              
was  considered  and  the assessment   was a  typical  function  of                                                             
DOT  that   resulted   in  a   typical  outcome.   Representative                                                               
Josephson  asked  if  there  was  opportunity  for  people  in  the                                                             
Interior  to  comment  on  the  parts  of HB  40.  He wondered   if                                                             
citizens  had  the  chance  to  voice  their  concerns   before  it                                                             
was  placed  in  the  budget.  Commissioner    Anderson  responded                                                              
that   there   were   opportunities    for  the   public   comment                                                              
through   the   STIP   and   the  Capital   Budget    process.   In                                                             
addition,   DOT  had  a  Tetlin   to  Fort  Knox   committee   that                                                             
afforded the public a comment period.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:13:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  referenced   the STIP.  She  asked  if the  STIP                                                             
there   was  published   on  a  regular   schedule.   Commissioner                                                              
Anderson   replied  that  since   there  was  a  current   2020  to                                                             
2023  schedule  in  effect,   the  department  only  made  changes                                                              
to  the STIP.  The  amendments   were published   on an  irregular                                                              
basis.  He  indicated  that  the  department  was  in  the process                                                              
of  building  a new  three  year  STIP for  2024  and  the process                                                              
would  include   public   outreach.   Co-Chair  Johnson   reported                                                              
that  her   district   was  not  listed   on  APEX.   She  relayed                                                              
issues  regarding   the  old  Glenn  Highway   and  warned  that  2                                                             
subdivisions   were being  built  connected  to  the  Highway  with                                                             
hundreds  of  new  homes.  She thought   that it  was  frightening                                                              
considering   how  long  it took  projects   to move  through   the                                                             
STIP.  She   asked  if  he  could  explain   the  process   of  how                                                             
projects   were  included  on  the  STIP.  Commissioner   Anderson                                                              
responded    that   there    was   a   process   that   began    by                                                             
recognizing   a need   moving  to  construction   of the  project.                                                              
He  explained  that  the  department   collected   data  on things                                                              
like  traffic  volumes,  etc.  and  the  public  would  also  reach                                                             
out  and  communicate   needs.  Depending   on  the  type  of  road                                                             
the  process   was  different.  Roads   on  the  National  Highway                                                              
System  were   addressed  directly   by  DOT.  Roads   not  on  the                                                             
federal   system  were   assessed  differently    when  allocating                                                              
funds.  He  emphasized  that  DOT  listened  to  the citizenry   on                                                             
the   various   needs  across   the   state.   State   roads   were                                                             
maintained   by   the  department    and   roads  off   the   state                                                             
highway    system   were   addressed    through    the   Community                                                              
Transportation    Program  where   DOT  solicited   projects   from                                                             
communities.   The  projects   were  scored  and  prioritized   and                                                             
included   on the  STIP.  Once  on  the  STIP,  the  project   went                                                             
through    a    project    delivery    process    that    included                                                              
environmental,   right-of-way    requirements,   etc.  that   could                                                             
affect  the  timeframe  of the  project.  Co-Chair  Johnson   asked                                                             
how  long  it took  on average   from a  project  beginning   until                                                             
funding  it.  Commissioner  Anderson   answered  it took  three  to                                                             
six  months   to  be  placed   on  the  STIP.  A  straightforward                                                               
project  could  be  completed   in 3  to  4 years,   complications                                                              
stretched out the timeframe.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:20:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon   noted  that there  was  a  list  of all  of  the                                                             
Capital  projects  in  committee  packets  titled   DOTPF  FY  2024                                                             
Capital  Requests    (copy  on  file).  There  were  199  projects                                                              
on the list.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Ortiz   asked   if   the  committee    would   be                                                             
speaking  about  the  list.  He  wanted  to  ask  a question.   Mr.                                                             
Pannone  responded   that  he did  not  think  there  was  time  to                                                             
go  through  all  199  projects.   The  presentation   highlighted                                                              
projects  from  each  program.  Representative   Ortiz  pointed  to                                                             
item  5,  the Rural  Ferry   Program  for  $68.5  million  for  the                                                             
Tustumena    Replacement    Vessel.   He   asked    who   DOT   was                                                             
requesting   the  money  from.  Mr.  Pannone  responded   that  the                                                             
item  was  the federal  authority   DOT  was requesting   from  the                                                             
legislature to receive and expend the rural ferry grants.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:22:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  asked  about  process.   She was  focused                                                              
on  two  locations  with  a  record  of  accidents.  She  wondered                                                              
how  much  flexibility   existed  in  the  STIP.  She referred   to                                                             
the  Seward  Highway  in  the  Midtown  and  Tutor  Road  areas  in                                                             
Anchorage   where  the need  had  changed   due to  the  pandemic.                                                              
She  wondered   how  much  flexibility   there  would  be  because                                                              
the  data   became   outdated.   Commissioner   Anderson   replied                                                              
that   DOT   tracked   the  data   and   reached   out   to   local                                                             
communities   and was  currently  working  to  improve  the areas.                                                              
He  Ensured   that  the  department   was  listening   and  paying                                                              
attention   to   traffic   volumes,   changing   needs,   etc.   He                                                             
pointed   out  that  nationwide   DOTs  were   no  longer  highway                                                              
departments   and  were  viewed   as transportation    departments                                                              
and  were  looking  at  things  from  a  transportation   corridor                                                              
perspective.   He shared  that  in  the  areas  she mentioned   the                                                             
department was focused on pedestrian improvements.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:25:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Cronk   asked  whether   the  Gerstle  River   and                                                             
Johson   River   bridges    were   the   oldest   in   the  state.                                                              
Commissioner   Anderson  answered  that  they  were the  oldest  on                                                             
the  primary   highway   system.  Representative    Cronk  learned                                                              
that  the bridges   were 79  years  old  and felt  they  were  past                                                             
due  their   time  for  being   rebuilt.   Commissioner   Anderson                                                              
agreed  with  the  statement.   He  remarked   that  there  was  an                                                             
added  danger  on  bridges  with  an  overhead  truss   system  and                                                             
that there were many good reasons for replacement.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:26:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson  continued   on slide  8  titled   Airport                                                              
Improvement Program:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      Program Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Program Total $420,671.4                                                                                             
           Int. Airport $19,532.2                                                                                               
           Federal Rcpts. $366,896.1                                                                                            
           UGF (Match) $25,888.6                                                                                                
           Int. Air. (Match) $8,354.4                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
             Project Selection:                                                                                                 
           .notdef Alaska Aviation System Plan                                                                                
           .notdef Aviation Project Evaluation Board                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
             $96M - International Airport Projects                                                                              
           .notdef FIA Lighting, Apron Improvements, Deicing                                                                  
             Projects                                                                                                           
         .notdef TSAIA Airfield Pavement Reconstruction,                                                                      
             Dispatch Relocation                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             $324M - Rural Airport Projects                                                                                     
           .notdef Runway Improvements in Adak, Buckland, Chevak,                                                             
             Deering, Kotzebue, Kwigillingok, Nightmute, and                                                                    
             Unalaska                                                                                                           
           .notdef Lighting Projects in Chenega and Talkeetna                                                                 
           .notdef Seaplane Improvements in Ketchikan and Hydaburg                                                            
           .notdef Building improvements in False Pass, King                                                                  
             Salmon, Mountain Village, Seward, and Valdez                                                                       
           .notdef Terminal Improvements in Ketchikan and Sitka                                                               
         .notdef Fencing Project in Deadhorse / Yakutat                                                                       
             Automated Wildlife Detection System                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Anderson   indicated   that   DOT  had   a  robust                                                              
airport    program.   The    department    employed   the   Alaska                                                              
Aviation  System  Plan,  similar  to  the STIP,  which  guided  the                                                             
airport    improvement     program.     The    Aviation    Project                                                              
Evaluation  Board  evaluated   and scored  projects  and  was  part                                                             
of  the  project   selection   process.   He  briefly  listed   the                                                             
projects denoted on the slide.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:28:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone   examined   slide   9  titled    Statewide   Federal                                                              
Programs:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Program Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Program Total $197,813.0                                                                                             
           UGF $1,023.5                                                                                                         
           Federal Rcpts. $185,489.5                                                                                            
           SDPR $25,888.6                                                                                                       
           UGF (Match) $1,300.0                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      • $32M - Federal Transit Administration Grants                                                                            
      .notdef 11 Rural Transit Providers                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      • $8M - Highway Safety Grants                                                                                             
      .notdef Public Outreach and Education Campaigns                                                                         
      .notdef Enforcement                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      • $125M - Nome Emergency Repairs from West Coast                                                                          
        Alaska Storm                                                                                                            
      .notdef 100% Federal                                                                                                    
      .notdef FHWA Eligibilities: Nome Council, Teller, Nome Front                                                            
        Street                                                                                                                  
      .notdef PROTECT Program: Local communities eligible                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      • $6.5M - Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Program                                                                          
    .notdef 9 Weigh Stations  Scale Repairs and Improvements                                                                  
      .notdef Permitting System Upgrades                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  explained   that  the  slide  depicted   all  of  the                                                             
other  federal  programs  that  were  not part  of the  categories                                                              
already  discussed.   He detailed  that  the  largest  part of  the                                                             
other    federal     programs     was    the    Federal    Transit                                                              
Administration   Grants  provided   to  relatively  small  transit                                                              
agencies   that   provided   rural  transport.    The  funds   were                                                             
granted   to 11  rural   transit  providers.   He  briefly  listed                                                              
the remaining programs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Hannan   asked   about   highway    safety.   She                                                             
referenced  a  law passed  in  the prior  year  that  allowed  four                                                             
wheelers   and   snowmachines    access   to   roads   unless   the                                                             
community  specifically   excluded  it.  She did  not  support  the                                                             
bill  out  of  safety  concerns.   She  shared  that  her  concern                                                              
was  over  increase  in  accidents   and asked  if  accidents   had                                                             
increased.   Commissioner   Anderson   responded  that  there   had                                                             
not  been  a  marked   increase  in  accidents   related   to  four                                                             
wheelers    and   snowmachines    over    the   past   year.    The                                                             
department   wanted   to  design   lanes   that  accommodate    the                                                             
types  of  vehicles,  so  they  do  not  have  to  use  the roads.                                                              
Representative   Hannan  was  happy  to  hear that  accidents   did                                                             
not increase.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:32:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Pannone   advanced   to  slide   10   titled    Rural   Ferry                                                             
Program:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Program Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Program Total $283,925.4                                                                                             
           Vessel Repl. $2,147.9                                                                                                
           Federal Rcpts. $281,777.5                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       • $46.2M - Climate Responsive Ferry Vessel Options                                                                       
      .notdef Electric Ferry                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      • $8.6M - Design of a New Alaska Mainliner                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      • $45.5M - Critical Upgrades to Ferry Dock                                                                                
        Infrastructure in Five Rural Alaska Communities                                                                         
      .notdef Auke Bay, Chenega, Pelican, Tatitlek, Cordova                                                                   
      .notdef FTA Conversations on-going                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      • $68.5M - M/V Tustumena Replacement Vessel                                                                               
      .notdef Phase 1: Focus on Propulsion System                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      • $72M - Vessel Modernization                                                                                             
      .notdef Kennicott, Tazlina, Matanuska, Columbia                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone   reported   that   the  Rural   Ferry   Program   was                                                             
included  in  Section  7-1102  and  Section  7-1102  of  IIJA.  The                                                             
first   section   was  structured    specifically    so  only   the                                                             
Alaska  Marine  Highway   System  (AMHS)  could  qualify   and  the                                                             
second  section  was  written  for ferry  electrification   and  an                                                             
electric   ferry  pilot  program.   The  department   applied   for                                                             
the  ferry  grant  program   and received   a  significant  amount                                                              
as  listed  on the  slide.  He provided   a brief  listing  of  the                                                             
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:34:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stapp   related  that   he  was  unfamiliar   with                                                             
the  concept   of  an  electric   ferry.   He  wondered  what   the                                                             
long-term  operational   costs  would  be for  an electric  ferry.                                                              
Commissioner   Anderson  responded   that  the  hope  was  that  it                                                             
would   help  reduce   operational   costs.   The  type  of   ferry                                                             
would  be  used  for  short  runs.  The  department  had  embarked                                                              
on a  research  project  and  would ultimately   make  a trial  run                                                             
on  an  electric  ferry   to  ensure  it  worked.  Representative                                                               
Stapp  asked  if the  study  would  occur  first  or the  purchase                                                              
of  the  ship.  Commissioner   Anderson   answered   that  DOT  was                                                             
currently  undertaking   the  study  and  it would  be  purchasing                                                              
a ferry.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   pointed  to  vessel   modernization   and                                                             
asked  what  would   be modernized   on  the  Tazlina,   which  was                                                             
one  of the  newest  ferries.  She  wondered  whether  it  was  the                                                             
installation    of   crew    quarters.    Commissioner    Anderson                                                              
replied in the affirmative.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:36:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  discussed  slide  11  titled   Rural  Ferry  Program                                                              
(cont'd):                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Program Highlights and Priorities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      • $40.1M - Federal Toll Credits for Match                                                                                 
           .notdef Toll Credits use 100% Fed Revenue                                                                          
           .notdef Earned from AMHS Revenues reinvested as capital                                                            
             improvements                                                                                                       
           .notdef Potential for over $42M of credits earned over                                                             
             the last five years alone                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      • Novel Funding Tool                                                                                                      
         .notdef Started in 1992 through Federal Highway                                                                      
             Administration                                                                                                     
        .notdef Toll Credits Accepted by Federal Transit                                                                      
             Administration                                                                                                     
           .notdef Including Legislative Finance Division in                                                                  
           Process                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      • Used by Washington State Ferries and Numerous Other                                                                     
        State DOTs                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  indicated  that  DOT was  looking  at creative   ways                                                             
to  meet  the state  match   requirement  of  20  percent  for  the                                                             
rural  ferry  grants  of  which  $22  million  was  necessary.   He                                                             
spoke   to   the  TOLL   credits   denoted   on   the   slide.   He                                                             
elaborated   that it  was  a program  that  allowed  the  state  to                                                             
use  toll  revenue,  AMHS  passenger  fares,  as  federal  credits                                                              
if  the toll  revenue  was  reinvested   as capital   improvements                                                              
in  the  ferry  system.  The  federal  credits  were  applied   and                                                             
federal   revenue    supplanted   state   revenue   for   matching                                                              
funds.  The   states   toll  revenue   was  enough  to  cover   the                                                             
state   match   in   toll    credits.   The   credits    had   been                                                             
established   by  the  FHA  in  1992  and  were  accepted   by  the                                                             
Federal  Transit  Administration   (FTA).  The  department  worked                                                              
with   the   Legislative    Finance   Division    and   were   kept                                                             
informed  of  all  the  technical   details.  The  department   had                                                             
consulted  with  the  New  Jersey  DOT that  had  many  toll  roads                                                             
and  exclusively    used  toll   credits   for  federal   matching                                                              
funds.  In addition,   he discovered   that the  Washington   state                                                             
ferries used toll credits.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked  whether   the  FTA  had  accepted                                                              
the  toll  credits  or  if  it  was  a  request  to  the  FTA.  Mr.                                                             
Pannone  replied  that  through  their  discussions  with  the  FHA                                                             
and  FTA, the  department   was assured   by the  FTA that  it  was                                                             
a viable and acceptable practice.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  continued  on  slide  12  titled   State  Funded  and                                                             
Named Projects:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Appropriation Highlights                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      • Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS) Vessel Overhaul,                                                                    
        annual Certification and Shoreside Facilities                                                                           
        Rehabilitation                                                                                                          
           .notdef Focus on Advanced Planning and Modernization                                                               
           .notdef $22M AMHS Revenue Fund                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      • Dalton Highway Delineators Improvements                                                                                 
           .notdef $2.1M UGF                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      • Public Building Fund Deferred Maintenance,                                                                              
        Renovation, Repair and Equipment                                                                                        
           .notdef $6.2M Public Building Fund                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      • State Equipment Fleet Replacement                                                                                       
           .notdef $35M Highway Equipment Working Capital Fund                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      • MH: Coordinated Transportation and Vehicles                                                                             
           .notdef $1M UGF, $300k Mental Health Trust Authority                                                               
             Authorized Receipts                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  relayed  that  the  projects  in  the  appropriation                                                              
typically  used  state  funds,  and  some  were  annual  requests.                                                              
He   briefly   discussed    each   listing   on   the   slide.   He                                                             
delineated   that  by  using  $22  million  in  AMHS  revenue   the                                                             
state  would  gain   more  federal  credits.   He noted   that  the                                                             
final  listing  provided   grants  to  the  Alaska  Mental  Health                                                              
Trust Authority (AMHTA) to provide transit for trustees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner     Anderson    advanced    to   slide    13   titled                                                              
 Delivering the Program:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      Project Delivery                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      • In House Design Engineering and Construction                                                                            
      Services                                                                                                                  
           .notdef 843 Budgeted Positions, approximately 700                                                                  
             filled (17% Vacancy Rate)                                                                                          
           .notdef Includes planners, engineers, environmental                                                                
             analysts, surveyors, right of way agents,                                                                          
             procurement staff, and administrative support                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      • Consultant Services                                                                                                     
           .notdef Consultants utilized as part of In-House teams                                                             
             in various capacities                                                                                              
           .notdef 50% -70% typical utilization rate based on                                                                 
             project priority and needs                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      • Construction Contractors:                                                                                               
           .notdef Over $800M in Awards in FFY2022                                                                            
         .notdef Anticipate close to $1B in construction                                                                      
             contract awards in FFY2023                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Anderson briefly described the slide.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:43:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Johnson    asked    how    available     the   outside                                                              
contractors   were.  Commissioner  Anderson  answered   that  there                                                             
had  been  responsiveness    to  the  bids.  He  noted  that   most                                                             
consultants   were  busy but  not  to the  point  where  projects                                                               
needs were not filled.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:44:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Anderson    relayed    information    related    to                                                             
project  delivery.   He discussed   the  series  of  discretionary                                                              
grant    opportunities    that   the    department    aggressively                                                              
pursued   and   had   so   far  won   some   such   as   the   Port                                                             
Improvement    Program.   The   department    applied    for   $100                                                             
million  for  the Bridge  Improvement   Program  and  were waiting                                                              
for  a reply.  In addition,   DOT applied  for  the RAISE  program                                                              
Rebuilding   American  Infrastructure   with   Sustainability   and                                                             
Equity.  He  elucidated  that  the department's   approach  was  to                                                             
take   projects    from    the   STIP   and    applied   for    the                                                             
discretionary   grants  making  room for  other  STIP  projects  to                                                             
be   prioritized.    He   mentioned   the   Promoting    Resilient                                                              
Operations   for  Transformative,    Efficient,   and  Cost-Saving                                                              
Transportation    (PROTECT)   Formula   Program   with  over   $848                                                             
million   nationwide   [to   help  make   surface  transportation                                                               
more   resilient   to   natural   hazards   and   disasters].    In                                                             
addition,   DOT  would   pursue  the   Wildlife   Crossings   Pilot                                                             
Program  (WCPP).   He  reiterated  that  the  department   was  not                                                             
requesting matching funds until a grant was awarded.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:46:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   asked  if  there  were  any  programs                                                              
where  the  state  did  not  receive  any  funding.   Commissioner                                                              
Anderson  responded   that there  were  not any  he could  recall.                                                              
The  department   was seeking   $1 billion   in grants,   and  some                                                             
had already been applied for and won.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:47:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone   advanced   to  slide  14  titled    Inflation.    He                                                             
reported   that   since   the  pandemic,    highway   construction                                                              
costs  had  increased   30  percent  since   2020.  However,   from                                                             
2019  to  2024   there  was  about  an  80   percent  increase   in                                                             
federal  revenue,   which  helped   him  deduce  how  much  of  the                                                             
value went for cost increases.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:48:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  asked  how  much  of  a  built  in number                                                              
was  figured  in  for things  like  maintenance.   She  understood                                                              
that  the  new federal  programs   were  beneficial,  but  she  was                                                             
concerned   about  deferred  maintenance   costs   in the  future.                                                              
She  wondered   if  there  was   a specific   maintenance   number                                                              
factored   in   or  how   the  department    dealt   with  ongoing                                                              
maintenance needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson  replied  that  some of  the  new programs                                                              
would  fix  current  problems  or  accomplish   things  that  would                                                             
reduce   maintenance    costs   like   replacing   existing    road                                                             
lighting   with  LEDs.  The  department   had  been  able  to  find                                                             
some  efficiencies.   However,  for  things  like  increased   lane                                                             
miles  future  operational   costs  would  be  needed.   When  they                                                             
were,  DOT  attempted  to  effectively   communicate  the  need  to                                                             
the governor and the legislature.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon   welcomed   former   Co-Chair   of   the   House                                                             
Finance   Committee,  Representative    Alan  Austerman,   who  was                                                             
in the audience.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:51:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pannone  continued  on  slide 15  titled   Preliminary   Hours                                                             
by  Job,   CY   2023.    He  explained   that   as   part  of   the                                                             
strategic  modeling   on how  the  department   would  deliver  the                                                             
capital  program   it was  using  AASHTOWare   [certified  payroll                                                              
tracking]   that  accounted   for  all  the   information   on  the                                                             
projects    project   delivery,    construction   contracts,    and                                                             
professional   services.  The  slide provided   an example  of  the                                                             
top  seven  categories   of  skillsets   in  workforce  needs   and                                                             
the  department  planned  to rely  on  more of  this data  for  the                                                             
department as well.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson   felt  positive  about  the  program.   He                                                             
added  that   by  the  contractors   submitting   their  certified                                                              
payroll    into   AASHTOWare,    the   system   enabled    DOT   to                                                             
understand    the   hours   needed    to   complete   a   project.                                                              
Therefore,   DOT  could  start   making  projections   on  project                                                              
costs  moving  forward.  He  elucidated   that the  system  was  in                                                             
its  infancy   but  believed  that  it  was  a  helpful   tool  and                                                             
also for understanding the reasons for increased costs.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon  commented  on  the  prior slide  [slide  14]  and                                                             
pointed  to  the  30 percent  increase   in highway   construction                                                              
costs.  He  thought   that  the  slide  really   illustrated   that                                                             
there  was a  significant  difference   between  increasing   costs                                                             
and an annual valued attached to inflation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Anderson   moved  to  slide  16  titled   Training:                                                              
Human  Capital  Plan.   He explained   that the  plan  was part  of                                                             
IIJA  and was  a workforce   development  and  training  plan.  The                                                             
plan  attempted   to  address   the  challenges   of  the  current                                                              
labor  environment.    The  plan  provided   federal  dollars   for                                                             
training  and  other   types  of activities   that  supported   the                                                             
workforce   to  get  people  back  to  work.  The  department   was                                                             
developing   its   plan  and   assessing   the  stresses   of   the                                                             
workforce   and  the  needs  to  build   Alaskas   transportation                                                               
system in the future with an adequate workforce.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:55:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Galvin   was   excited   about   the   plan   and                                                             
believed   that  the  Human  Capital  Plan  was  a   roadmap    for                                                             
the   states     educational    system   and    offered   students                                                              
assurance   of  future   jobs.  She   asked  how   the  department                                                              
would   implement   the  plan   and  if   they  were   considering                                                              
working  with   educational  partners   or  developing   their  own                                                             
trainings.   She hoped  DOT  would  implement   the plan  quickly.                                                              
Commissioner    Anderson    answered   that   DOT   was    getting                                                              
started   on this.    He  indicated  that   they  were  partnering                                                              
with  groups  like the  the  Association  of  General  Contractors                                                              
and  the consultant   community  on  the  design  side and  had  to                                                             
consider   all  aspects   of  delivering   projects.   He  related                                                              
that  the  department   would  view  the  educational   task  as  a                                                             
project   by  building   goals  and   objectives   and  allocating                                                              
funds.  He  was  currently   looking  at  demonstration   projects                                                              
where  a rural  community   built its  own  roads  as a  part of  a                                                             
training   program.   Representative    Galvin  relayed   that   70                                                             
percent  of  students   were  not  going  on  to a  4-year  degree                                                              
programs  and  observed  them  choosing  jobs  in the  trades.  She                                                             
hoped   the  plan   was   a  success   for   the  opportunity    it                                                             
afforded young people.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:59:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Hannan   cited  the   photo  on   slide  16   and                                                             
wanted  to  confirm   that  the  photograph   of  kitchen  workers                                                              
represented   five   licensed  mariners   working   in  a  skilled                                                              
agency  with  an  unusual  duty  station.  Commissioner   Anderson                                                              
responded in the affirmative.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  commented   that  the   UGF  required   for  the                                                             
capital  budget  match  was  about $109  million.  The  governors                                                               
original  capital   request  was  about  $303  million.   He  asked                                                             
if  the   $109   million   figure   was  accurate.    Mr.  Pannone                                                              
answered  in  the  affirmative   and  added  that  the  amount  was                                                             
the  UGF  revenue   necessary   to  capture  all  of  the  federal                                                              
funding presented in the slides.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Cronk  thanked   Commissioner  Anderson   for  his                                                             
time  and   creativity   in  working   with  communities    in  his                                                             
district to get things done.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Edgmon  thanked   the  congressional    delegation   for                                                             
securing   the  funds.   He  hoped   in  future   years  when   the                                                             
projects   were  completed  Alaskans   would  see  the  difference                                                              
they made. He noted there was a recent bill to name a Don                                                                       
Young [HB 141- ESTABLISHING DON YOUNG DAY, Chapter 24 SLA                                                                       
23, 08/26/2023] day and felt it was fitting.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon reviewed the agenda for the following day's                                                                     
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 40 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 40 DOT HFIN Capital Budget 2023.04.25.pdf HFIN 4/25/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 40
HB 40 DOTPF - Capital Allocations 042523.pdf HFIN 4/25/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 40